Viseart Grande Pro Vol. 3 Palette ($175.00) is the newest in the Grande Pro series, which are larger format palettes that contain 30, full-sized shades (that are removable). Per Viseart, all of the shades in the palette are new and exclusive to the palette.
Notably, it’s marketed as a Pigment palette, and in the FAQ on the palette, one question is “can all shades be used in the eye area” with the answer given as “This palette is made with the finest pigment and is EU (European Union) compliant for use in eye makeup.”
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I like how the organized the shades are, like a color code chart, but this palette is a pass for me. I wouldn’t get any use out of the majority of shades.
It is super pretty and the color selection is nice–not just variety of shades but tones and depths. I think it will make some serious makeup lovers very happy. However, being more a neutral gal, this palette isn’t for me.
Those periwinkles didn’t swatch too hot. And only the teals, deep jewel tones and anything periwinkle was all that interested me to some extent. All in all, not a *terrible* Palette, but not for me.
Those more pale shades of blues and greens are exactly the colors that caught my eye and I’m really hoping that they are better in practice than they look swatched.
Not a palette I would find easy to use so no chance I’d drop $75 on this, let alone $175 (or $230 or more that it will cost here!)
CeeBee
Interesting that Colourpop can put out a palette with pressed pigments and everyone loses their rag that they are “not approved for use in the immediate eye area” but Viseart and Melt do the same thing (handily without mentioning that it is not specifically US FDA approved) with this and the Radioactive palette and nobody makes a peep.
Christine, your eye look is fab! It’s a bit “fruit salady” looking for my personal tastes but it looks like the quality is there!
I don’t see much re: Pressed Pigments from ColourPop – I see more reactions to the inclusion of Pressed Glitters. It’s also important to keep in mind that the audiences may or may not overlap – someone who might have pointed out that with ColourPop may not be a Viseart or Melt buyer. It might even just be where Viseart (which was originally more pro-oriented) vs. ColourPop (consumer-oriented and more accessible) draws greater attention to the fine print (or lack thereof!).
Looking at the back of Melt’s Radioactive palette, it says “Radioactive, Radon, and Hazmat Pressed Pigments contain ingredients that are not approved by the FDA and Melt Cosmetics for use on the eyes.” Viseart’s answer is an unusual way to answer, and I don’t think there’s anything that notes that on the actual packaging, and I do, personally, want to see brands including the warning on the physical palette. I know that I found it peculiar that the Milieu palette included Pressed Pigments but was still called an “Eyeshadow Palette” on the back and had nothing about which shades were pigments (GPV3 doesn’t distinguish which shades are actually using non-FDA approved color additives).
Leah Martinez
So with all these trendier, brightly colored (once considered editorial) palettes I see the careful wording not to call them eyeshadows, but instead pressed pigments. There are also typically full on warnings on some here in the US, like the one you mentioned from Melt Cosmetics. If not intended for use on the eye, what are we doing with them? Isn’t that what they are being sold for? All the promotions are eye looks.. I get its buyer beware and all that but what IS the risk we are taking? I’m just branching out from more neutral palettes and all these warnings plastered everywhere are causing me to ask. Are there any good articles to read up on?
We’ve included a warning on the product pages (still working on whether or how we’ll include in the blog reviews), which is as follows:
NOTICE: All products categorized under “Pigment” carry a warning in the US that the product is “not intended for use in the immediate eye area.” Brands in the US typically market these products as “Pigments” (instead of “Eyeshadow”), and there is often a warning on the back of packaging or the label. The product includes color additives that are not approved for usage on the eyes per the FDA. Some color additives in “Pigments” have no usage restrictions in the EU, per CosIng, and can be used on the eyes. We recommend checking ingredients to confirm current safety assessment/restrictions: FDA/CosIng.
Thanks for your reply – I have no horse in the glitter debate but I do recall there being some grumblings over at least one of the CP palettes with pressed pigments but it was at least several months ago (which I guess are like dog years for beauty products, LOL) but I can’t remember which one/s were involved. I think there’s been a lot more information and education around the red lake pigments and what is EU/FDA approved since then, to be fair…
I’m happy without the FDA stamp of approval (since I’n in NZ and we import more stuff from the EU than the US anyway and I know how stringent they are) but I agree it does sound like Viseart are talking out both sides of their mouth – which if their product is made in France, seems like it actually might be legit.
I also didn’t really consider that consumers might be dedicated to one brand and not consider other options, though that makes a lot of sense if you factor in price and accessibility so I appreciate that reminder!
It just seemed like the budget brand who was up front about hey, technically we can’t say this is safe to put on your eyes because hey, bureaucracy but the luxe brands with higher price points can double talk around that point and that struck me as unfair, but maybe I need to think about that a bit more instead of jumping to conclusions.
I think the issue with ColourPop might actually have been that they weren’t putting any notices on the palettes for awhile – I remember it being something I lamented, because they would do it but nothing on the packaging indicated that was a thing. If you went to the site and looked at the ingredients, they’d list it there. They seem to have moved to making sure to mark them on the back of the physical palette (I believe this has been in place for the last year or so). I think with the Pressed Glitters, ColourPop was more scrutinized and more people likely saw the warnings for the other shades, too, so that might have contributed – just more eyes on the “issue” and ColourPop’s reach is likely larger than Viseart.
I remember Sugarpill always had the best warning… safe for EU eyes, not for US eyes. A lot of brands simply state that they’re not intended for the eyes without anything else, which certainly errs on the side of safety… except the majority of these brands market the products on the eyes and put them in packaging that functionally looks like an eyeshadow palette. I’ll never understand why the larger beauty conglomerates can’t get together and push through approval for the color additives by FDA.
Valerie
My understanding is that the practical aspect of those warnings is that you’re likely to stain your eyelids with these non-approved pigments. Because there is a potential “effect”, FDA won’t approve. No one knows what the long-term implications are from regular use, or the concomitant regular “effects”.
Also, some people have reactions to dyes and I don’t know what pigments these are, whether some are dyes or what. Also, eyelids are often the first (and sometimes only) place to develop skin reactions on the face. Eyelid skin is very special – it’s very thin and prone to irritation. So use these non-approved pigments with caution.
It’s a beautiful palette. Those bright colors put a nice twinkle in my eye however, that price tag gave me a present day reality check. To those of you who do make the purchase, please post a review.
This would be the perfect matte palette to accompany any shimmer palette you may own. I think Viseart has done a fabulous job with the mattes here, they look pretty darn good.
Wow, $175 for that chalky, patchy and inconsistent palette? Oh goodness, no.
Valerie
Viseart shadows are so lovely and I have almost all the palettes, including pro 1+2. But I’m on the fence with this one as I barely use red or blue color stories and when I do, I already have multiple palettes for each story. Blues and greens are tough to formulate well and some do look patchy on swatches. If this palette rates highly it might push me to buy it. Reserving judgment – it is Viseart, after all.
Hénomis
Hi Christine,
I’ve just stumbled upon this palette and I think it’s very interesting. I’m on the hunt for a… reference colour palette if you will, like a palette you can reach for whenever you need a specific colour. I like the monochromatic layout, although it lacks some purples, but maybe you can get them mixing other colours ?
Do you have any other option in mind for such a palette ?
This does not contain all possible colors and is all matte in finish, so whether that’ll work for your type of looks is really going to be a personal decision! You can always mix shades to get more of what you want, but that takes time and doesn’t always work out well (depending on how the two combine), so it is an extra step that you may or may not actually want to bother with – again, it really depends on your application and preferences!
It is also pretty expensive, so you might want to dial in on what colors you’d really use/what you’d want rather than “collect ’em all” mentality if you’re not actually going to use everything!
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I like how the organized the shades are, like a color code chart, but this palette is a pass for me. I wouldn’t get any use out of the majority of shades.
These shades are absolutely beautiful. Luckily, the price will help me stay strong.
It is super pretty and the color selection is nice–not just variety of shades but tones and depths. I think it will make some serious makeup lovers very happy. However, being more a neutral gal, this palette isn’t for me.
Those periwinkles didn’t swatch too hot. And only the teals, deep jewel tones and anything periwinkle was all that interested me to some extent. All in all, not a *terrible* Palette, but not for me.
Yikes! Some of those blue and green shades are looking a little… patchy. ??
Those more pale shades of blues and greens are exactly the colors that caught my eye and I’m really hoping that they are better in practice than they look swatched.
Not a palette I would find easy to use so no chance I’d drop $75 on this, let alone $175 (or $230 or more that it will cost here!)
Interesting that Colourpop can put out a palette with pressed pigments and everyone loses their rag that they are “not approved for use in the immediate eye area” but Viseart and Melt do the same thing (handily without mentioning that it is not specifically US FDA approved) with this and the Radioactive palette and nobody makes a peep.
Christine, your eye look is fab! It’s a bit “fruit salady” looking for my personal tastes but it looks like the quality is there!
I don’t see much re: Pressed Pigments from ColourPop – I see more reactions to the inclusion of Pressed Glitters. It’s also important to keep in mind that the audiences may or may not overlap – someone who might have pointed out that with ColourPop may not be a Viseart or Melt buyer. It might even just be where Viseart (which was originally more pro-oriented) vs. ColourPop (consumer-oriented and more accessible) draws greater attention to the fine print (or lack thereof!).
Looking at the back of Melt’s Radioactive palette, it says “Radioactive, Radon, and Hazmat Pressed Pigments contain ingredients that are not approved by the FDA and Melt Cosmetics for use on the eyes.” Viseart’s answer is an unusual way to answer, and I don’t think there’s anything that notes that on the actual packaging, and I do, personally, want to see brands including the warning on the physical palette. I know that I found it peculiar that the Milieu palette included Pressed Pigments but was still called an “Eyeshadow Palette” on the back and had nothing about which shades were pigments (GPV3 doesn’t distinguish which shades are actually using non-FDA approved color additives).
So with all these trendier, brightly colored (once considered editorial) palettes I see the careful wording not to call them eyeshadows, but instead pressed pigments. There are also typically full on warnings on some here in the US, like the one you mentioned from Melt Cosmetics. If not intended for use on the eye, what are we doing with them? Isn’t that what they are being sold for? All the promotions are eye looks.. I get its buyer beware and all that but what IS the risk we are taking? I’m just branching out from more neutral palettes and all these warnings plastered everywhere are causing me to ask. Are there any good articles to read up on?
Hi Leah,
We’ve included a warning on the product pages (still working on whether or how we’ll include in the blog reviews), which is as follows:
NOTICE: All products categorized under “Pigment” carry a warning in the US that the product is “not intended for use in the immediate eye area.” Brands in the US typically market these products as “Pigments” (instead of “Eyeshadow”), and there is often a warning on the back of packaging or the label. The product includes color additives that are not approved for usage on the eyes per the FDA. Some color additives in “Pigments” have no usage restrictions in the EU, per CosIng, and can be used on the eyes. We recommend checking ingredients to confirm current safety assessment/restrictions: FDA/CosIng.
https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/cosmetic-ingredient-names/color-additives-permitted-use-cosmetics
https://data.europa.eu/euodp/en/data/dataset/cosing-list-of-colorants-allowed-in-cosmetic-products
Thanks for your reply – I have no horse in the glitter debate but I do recall there being some grumblings over at least one of the CP palettes with pressed pigments but it was at least several months ago (which I guess are like dog years for beauty products, LOL) but I can’t remember which one/s were involved. I think there’s been a lot more information and education around the red lake pigments and what is EU/FDA approved since then, to be fair…
I’m happy without the FDA stamp of approval (since I’n in NZ and we import more stuff from the EU than the US anyway and I know how stringent they are) but I agree it does sound like Viseart are talking out both sides of their mouth – which if their product is made in France, seems like it actually might be legit.
I also didn’t really consider that consumers might be dedicated to one brand and not consider other options, though that makes a lot of sense if you factor in price and accessibility so I appreciate that reminder!
It just seemed like the budget brand who was up front about hey, technically we can’t say this is safe to put on your eyes because hey, bureaucracy but the luxe brands with higher price points can double talk around that point and that struck me as unfair, but maybe I need to think about that a bit more instead of jumping to conclusions.
🙂
I think the issue with ColourPop might actually have been that they weren’t putting any notices on the palettes for awhile – I remember it being something I lamented, because they would do it but nothing on the packaging indicated that was a thing. If you went to the site and looked at the ingredients, they’d list it there. They seem to have moved to making sure to mark them on the back of the physical palette (I believe this has been in place for the last year or so). I think with the Pressed Glitters, ColourPop was more scrutinized and more people likely saw the warnings for the other shades, too, so that might have contributed – just more eyes on the “issue” and ColourPop’s reach is likely larger than Viseart.
I remember Sugarpill always had the best warning… safe for EU eyes, not for US eyes. A lot of brands simply state that they’re not intended for the eyes without anything else, which certainly errs on the side of safety… except the majority of these brands market the products on the eyes and put them in packaging that functionally looks like an eyeshadow palette. I’ll never understand why the larger beauty conglomerates can’t get together and push through approval for the color additives by FDA.
My understanding is that the practical aspect of those warnings is that you’re likely to stain your eyelids with these non-approved pigments. Because there is a potential “effect”, FDA won’t approve. No one knows what the long-term implications are from regular use, or the concomitant regular “effects”.
Also, some people have reactions to dyes and I don’t know what pigments these are, whether some are dyes or what. Also, eyelids are often the first (and sometimes only) place to develop skin reactions on the face. Eyelid skin is very special – it’s very thin and prone to irritation. So use these non-approved pigments with caution.
It’s a beautiful palette. Those bright colors put a nice twinkle in my eye however, that price tag gave me a present day reality check. To those of you who do make the purchase, please post a review.
Huh kind of a mixed bag. A few shades are gorgeous though. Toasted, Khaki, and Watermelon are fantastic.
Some very beautiful shades in there. But formula is uneven. Can those pressed pigments be used as blushes, I wonder?
This would be the perfect matte palette to accompany any shimmer palette you may own. I think Viseart has done a fabulous job with the mattes here, they look pretty darn good.
Ooh, looking at this palette reminds me of how I felt back when the Dark Matte and Editorial Bright palettes were released: ?
Wow, $175 for that chalky, patchy and inconsistent palette? Oh goodness, no.
Viseart shadows are so lovely and I have almost all the palettes, including pro 1+2. But I’m on the fence with this one as I barely use red or blue color stories and when I do, I already have multiple palettes for each story. Blues and greens are tough to formulate well and some do look patchy on swatches. If this palette rates highly it might push me to buy it. Reserving judgment – it is Viseart, after all.
Hi Christine,
I’ve just stumbled upon this palette and I think it’s very interesting. I’m on the hunt for a… reference colour palette if you will, like a palette you can reach for whenever you need a specific colour. I like the monochromatic layout, although it lacks some purples, but maybe you can get them mixing other colours ?
Do you have any other option in mind for such a palette ?
Thanks 🙂
This does not contain all possible colors and is all matte in finish, so whether that’ll work for your type of looks is really going to be a personal decision! You can always mix shades to get more of what you want, but that takes time and doesn’t always work out well (depending on how the two combine), so it is an extra step that you may or may not actually want to bother with – again, it really depends on your application and preferences!
It is also pretty expensive, so you might want to dial in on what colors you’d really use/what you’d want rather than “collect ’em all” mentality if you’re not actually going to use everything!