My quibble with all of the 24/7 shadow liners is how difficult they are to blend out. These set instantly so if you do want to blend for a softer look, you are left tugging away at your lids quite roughly. On the positive side, these are great, long-wearing shadows on their own and are great as bases for other shadows that crease or need help to show up or both! I loved these like made when I first got them but since then, and since finding the Tarte and Sephora shadow pencils which have all the good qualities and also remain blendable for a minute or so, I haven't been using my UD pencils nearly as much. Having said that, Underground is a great brown pencil with so many uses. It doesn't lean red at all - it's fairly neutral to cool in tone and so it's a shade I can wear quite well on the lid or in the crease or as a "one step and out the door" type product.